Friday 2 September 2011

Anthony Brain exchange on Facebook between me debating a Blairite and an Ultra-Left!

• ANTHONY BRAIN’S REPLY IN A DEBATE WITH A BLAIRITE AND ULTRALEFT!


o Merlin Reader wrote the following not fully realizing the workers government slogan and why revolutionaries pose demands on Left Wing Social Democrats:-
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o “Changing the government doesn't change attitudes any more than changing the law. The only point of a left wing government is to encourage a push for further change. And it will be opposed by the police, political establishment and military. Examples: Paris 1871, Russia 1917, Germany 1918-23, Portugal 1974, Iran 1979 etc”.

A Blairite Lukey Stanger wrote the following in defence of New Labour:-

o “Hahaa what about the 80s when we were a pathetic far left hardcore socialism party which resulted in us being completely un-electable however luckily then blair, mandy and brown came along and modernised it, took it to the right in a progressive way and made us electable again which resulted in our record time ever in government and us to achieve all the amazing things we achieved, @merlin, no mate I will defend my party's track record in education till the day I die, record levels of investment in it which resulted in more teachers and tas then ever before as well more students leaving school with 5 a* to c grades than ever before as well as also played a part in us taking more kids out of poverty since we introduced the welfare state when recently in government and yes we did introduced tution fees however at a fair reasonable price and what did it enable, 70% more students to attend uni, we don't however support them being trebled which is y we were vigorously opposed to the tory plans to do so and will no doubt retract them when DAVID miliband is the next pm of britainn :)”
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o Below is my answer to a Blarite who attacks me for calling for McDonnell to challenge Miliband for Labour Party leadership. It is unusual for the Blairites to respond! Are they worried about the growth of the Labour left particularly from the Unions? If there was any Trotskyist cadre knew what they were doing New Labour would not last long within the Labour Party. It is partly Ultra-Leftism which has played into their hands.


New Labour played into the Tory hands. They enabled a hated party to manouvre back into power. They are a half way house to the Tory attacks. Despite New Labour's character as a Bourgeois faction they had to make compromises with the Social Democrats due to their failure to convert Labour into a Bourgeois party whose measures Stanger mentions to justify New Labour's role. New Labour did this inspite themselves. It is an example of contradictions within dialectics of intermediary stages in uncompleted transitions where opposite end-results emerge. It is also an example of law of uneven and combined development
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o As a Trotskyist I argue Social Democracy is going to find it hard to defend workers past gains due to relying on the ruling class to rule. This does not mean they will not defend specific gains against Capital due to them being based on the organized working class. Trotskyists through united fronts’ involving millions of workers aims to show them that their gains can only be ensured by overthrowing Capitalism.


If Social Democracy is incapable of defending the old workers gains even less the Bourgeois New Labour faction can. Their aim is to weaken workers past gains and destroy Social Democracy which stands in the way of Capital taking the falling rate of profit at the expense of workers and middle class. New Labour's ability to do this internally within the Labour Parry is going to be reduced. This means they either join the Lib Dems or Tories in the near future.


Reader does not understand the workers government slogan of revolutionaries’ and why they call on left wing Social Democrats to fight Bourgeois faction or right wing Social Democrats. The workers government slogan is the jewel in the ground of the Transitional Programme. Trotskyists pose demands on mass Social Democratic parties or Stalinist parties in Western Europe and Japan to form a government so we can show their base that reformism serves Capitalism and only Socialist revolutions can defend and extends workers gains.


In periods of crisis within Social Democratic parties Trotskyists like in the British Labour Party call for left wing Social Democrats like McDonnell to drive the Blairites out so out of the turmoil we defeat the worse Bourgeois elements and show through going through struggles of millions of workers politically in the Labour Party that you can break them from reformism towards revolutionary politics.

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